Sunday, 7/19/2026, 8:30am - Like It Is

Part 1. Victor Luckerson, author, Built from The Fire: The Epic Story of Tulsa’s Greenwood District, America’s Black Wall Street, discusses his book and some of the racial incidents and attitudes that lead to the destruction of the Greenwood District in Tulsa Oklahoma in 1921.This critical acclaimed book and examination of current race relations in Tulsa has received widespread praise, “A multigenerational saga of a family and a community in Tulsa’s Greenwood district, known as “Black Wall Street,” that in one century survived the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, urban renewal, and gentrification.
“Ambitious . . . absorbing . . . By the end of Luckerson’s outstanding book, the idea of building something new from the ashes of what has been destroyed becomes comprehensible, even hopeful.”—Marcia Chatelain, The New York Times.This is part one of a two-part interview session.